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, washington bureau chief, jerry, looks like obama's going for a two-fer, raising rates on the rich and cap deductions on the rich get them going both ways. >> opening position phase here. the problem, i think, is neither side really is moving fast enough to prevent the partisans on both wings to dig in now. i think the danger is closer to the deadline, you can't get people to pull up the stakes, move in, and support a deal. there's a compromise to be done, and i think that resolves some of the issues in the middle. i think the problem is going to be if you get a compromise at the top, will the troops below to support the compromise still be there? >> while people think there's a full month, you worry we have until december 15th? >> good point. i'm not sure if it's december 15th, but if you want a bill done by the end of the year, it takes a couple weeks to get it done, christmas in the middle, obviously, i think the deadline in practical yesterday, he said there's no way they can compromise unless republicans raise rates on the wealthiest americans. do you think that's now their stance no
is the guy that pushed obama to extend the bush tax rates in 2010. so reid would i suspect -- >> i'm starting to like him more. i thought of him as senator pat geary from godfather 2. but everybody loves harry. there's a song everybody loves harry. anybodies that that has anything to do with casinos loves harry. just a quick question. you were a big cap guy for a long time. now dividends rates where going up. are you still a big cap guy? i've been a small cap guy. i'll tell you you why. >> when did you switch? >> this is a while ago. the reason why, number one -- it's a growth story. >> do you like the natural gases play ms in small cap? >> the way we've invested, we haven't been looking at producers. we're looking at users of natural gas. i think that's been a little bit better. >> we'll hit that break at 6:50, the one that we keep -- >> let's do it. >> and write a six minute tease for that break. i'm going to have time to read the entire thing and people at the end of that tease, no one will leave before 7:00. >> because we never listen to the producers. >> the only reason people watch us i
on the fact we're not going to raise the rates on anybody at any point. and what the obama administration has made very clear is it's got to be tax rate. well, the republicans are saying, doesn't have to be the tax rate. you can come up with other money closing loopholes and deductions and stuff like that. so right now it's just a dance, somebody's got -- the republicans have to come up with a formal offer. >> gretchen: i was going to say, they don't have a plan. >> steve: we've heard the president's plan. it's crazy, according to the republicans. now it's time for the republicans to come out with a plan and then have the democrats say, no, that's crazy. >> gretchen: one thing is for sure, nobody is going to get everything that they want. that's just the way it is, i think, in this very difficult situation. both sides are going to have to compromise. >> brian: i think the rolling stones sang about satisfaction and you can't always get it. >> steve: you can't get no. >> brian: we'll go over that and maybe sing it. costco is a company in which the president always leans on the ceo, the guy in c
is the difference between obama saying he wants 1.6 trillion revenue and republicans say 800 billion in revenue. as luke said, not giving in on the issue of raising tax rates. they hold out this promise of tax reforms with loopholes and deductions. i don't know exactly how they arrive at that. it strikes me when you think back to 2010 when obama went along with extending the bush tax cuts for two more years. he was adamant back then, this is it and i'm doing it for two more years and i'm going to run for re-election and make them go away for rich americans. that's not acceptable to the white house, $800 billion from so-called tax reform. >> well, steve, i mean, you put it sole well i don't know how to improve on that. that's my first reaction, is that the absence of any l giving any ground on the rates mean we haven't moved that far here. i think that that's the key sticking point here. you know, as a matter of -- a lot of what's happening here is a duel in public opinion and the media, who looks like they're reaching out and who gets blamed if things get ugly. i think the republicans are tryin
caught government spending within those years. the problem with obama's proposals is he wants more. this idea that raising tax rates does not hurt the economy because, you can go ahead and spoke three packs of cigarettes a day for the rest of your life because i know somebody who did that and he did not get cancer. stuart: okay. that was very good. [ laughter ] now, i know why you have not been on the show very often. i am at a loss for words when you are done. stephen moore, i do hope you come back and see us soon. >> thank you, sir. stuart: here is an example of what i call tax hypocrisy. costco founder going to save because of the dividend payment this year. not next year, this year. the ceo, he is a very big obama supporter. even spoke at the democratic convention. >> a president who understands what the private sector needs to succeed. a president who takes the long view and makes the tough decisions. that is whh i am here tonight supporting president obama. stuart: supports president obama, supports tax the rich, but does not pay the rich taxes. i say tax hypocrisy and i am b
president obama but john boehner doesn't like it. >> i was just flabbergasted. i looked at him and i said, you can't be serious. >> if they are gonna force higher rates on virtually all americans because they are unwilling to let tax rates go up on 2% of americans, that's the choice they will -- they will have to make. >> if congress dodge act by the end of the year, tax cuts go up for everyone and across-the- board tax cuts go up. >>> the state is going to pay public schools and community colleges the $1.9 billion it owes them. it's money that should have been paid out over the summer buts -- but was deferred. and in march, schools will get another payment of nearly $1 billion the state was going to defer until april. >>> 8:17. students in five states will be in school longer. selected schools in colorado, connecticut, massachusetts, new york and tennessee are da to announce today that they are -- are due to announce today they are adding 300 hours of class time. >>> the boy scout denied his eagle scout award because he's gay will be honored by state lawmakers. he was told just days befo
marshalling tax rates or taxes on the rich was a red herring in debt reduction. the problem that you have is right or wrong, obama has just won the election on that basic pledge to raise taxes. >> wrong, wrong, wrong! you know what, that makes no sense. how many people do you know that said i'm going to vote for the president to have more debt, and in an economy that can't grow it's way out of the issues? we currently only take in about 15.5% revenues. we need to get to 2021. >> i understand that. >> it's not a tax problem, it's a growth problem. and he has no growth plan. so then they blame others, because they don't have a plan. >> but he was able to get through the election doing precisely that. >> got through the election on social issues. on the economy, i think it's pretty clear that nobody voted for four more years of the current economy. four more years to get his house in order and he's not going to get his house in order using the red herring of taxes when it's entitlemen entitlements. it just isn't going to work, simon. >> i get it. i'm just pointing out -- >> you know what, le
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